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THE WORLD'S ONLY TRUE PLUG AND PLAY
FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM!

NO TUNING, NO PROGRAMMING, NO HASSLES!

UNMATCHED DRIVABILITY, INCREDIBLE FUEL ECONOMY!



Q&A:

Which intake manifold should I choose?

Most Mass-Flo systems give you a choice of intake manifolds. You might think that this is to give you a variety of RPM ranges, but that is not the case. Keep in mind... The RPM ranges typically associated with these manifolds (such as the RPM ranges listed on Edelbrock's website) are true when they are being used with a carburetor. Those figures mean nothing when you take that same manifold and use it in a "dry" system such as this. A good example would be the Victor Jr. for a Ford 302. Edelbrock lists this manifold's effective RPM range at 3500-8000 RPM's. That is true when it is being used with a carburetor. The fuel is being mixed with air inside the carburetor, and then the air/fuel mixture needs to travel down the intake runners and into the head. At below 3500 RPM, the fuel cannot stay suspended in the air, because the intake runners are so large, which results in low velocity through the runners. This is not the case with the Mass-Flo system. With the Mass-Flo system, the fuel is sprayed into the airpath at the end of the intake runners. The only thing that is traveling through the intake runners is air, so the size of the runners has little effect on the manifolds RPM characteristics. This means you can use an intake manifold that would normally be considered much too aggressive on even a mild engine. So why do we give you a choice? So you can get your air cleaner as high or as low as it needs to be to fit your application, and so that we can choose a manifold that matches the port size of your heads. Maybe you have a "shaker" hood, or maybe you have very limited hood clearance. Maybe you want to use a "Cobra" air cleaner, which needs to be over your distributor, but below the hood. With a choice of manifold heights, you can select a combination that will work for your application. Choose your intake manifold based on fit... not based on RPM range. We have used the Victor Jr. on several bone stock 302 engines, and it has amazing throttle response and low RPM performance with the Mass-Flo system.

 

I see that some other systems are now claiming to be plug and play. Are they?

No way!

Almost immediately after the Mass-Flo system was introduced, we noticed that the competition started changing their "tune" (pun intended). Once we educated the public, and made them aware that all the hassle associated with the competition is more trouble and money than it is worth, the competition started changing the wording on their websites. Note however, that the products have not changed. We're always amazed at what our competition will claim. It seems they will say anything to get you to buy their systems. Lately we've noticed claims of plug and play speed density systems, or calibrations that are available (usually at extra cost) for specific engine combinations that will make them plug and play. It's just not true. If you understand how fuel injection works, then you understand that...

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SPEED DENSITY SYSTEM THAT IS PLUG AND PLAY...

PERIOD!

That's why we invented the Mass-Flo system... Because our Mass Air EFI does not need tuning, or programming, or dyno time... IT JUST WORKS! That's why we invented our compact, hidden Mass Air Flow Meter, and quickly patented it.

 

Will Mass-Flo be introducing a TBI (throttle body injection) system?

No we won't. I'll explain, but first, for those that are not clear on the different types of EFI, let me explain the differences between throttle body injection (TBI), and port fuel injection. As with our system, TBI systems use a throttle body on top of a conventional carbureted style manifold. The difference is that a TBI system has the fuel injectors located in the throttle body (hence the name), and a port fuel injection system has eight individual injectors, one located at the base of each intake runner. All existing TBI systems are also speed density, unlike our system, which is Mass Air. We've covered that extensively on the "Mass-Flo Systems" page. If you have not read it, you should.

So... Why won't we develop a TBI system? Simply because we won't sell anything that I do not personally believe in, and a TBI system just cannot perform up to our standards on too many applications. Blame it on my upbringing, but if I can't do better than the rest, I won't do it at all. I suspect our customers will appreciate this extra attention to detail!

A TBI system would offer a slightly easier installation, but at too great a sacrifice. If we were to offer TBI, you might be able to bolt it onto your existing manifold, rather than changing it, so there is a little less work, but the little bit of time you save will cost you...

(1) Chances are, the manifold you have is not the best choice, and should be changed anyway. It may be too restrictive, and holding back your engines potential, or it may simply be a bad choice for your application. Which brings us to number 2...

(2) Your manifold may not be well suited to TBI. This can be difficult to overcome since you are right back where you were with your old inefficient carburetor. Since the air is being mixed with fuel in the throttle body, intake manifold selection is critical to performance. Too small a runner will result in a restriction, sacrificing power. Too large a runner will result in low velocity at low RPMs, and fuel pooling in the intake. This will cause very poor idle quality. With our port EFI system, the fuel is introduced at the base of the intake. Since there is no fuel traveling through the intake, there is no potential for pooling, so we simply use a large runner. For more on this, see "Which intake manifold should I choose?" above.

(3) TBI systems are speed density. Speed density relies on a MAP (manifold air pressure) sensor as it's primary source for determining how much fuel to add. If your camshaft produces poor, or erratic vacuum, the speed density system will have no effective way of determining how much fuel to add. Our Mass-Flo system does not read manifold vacuum. This allows you to use whatever camshaft you want. The speed density vs. mass air issue is covered extensively on our "Mass-Flo Systems" page. Again, if you have not read our "Mass-Flo Systems" page, you should.

(4) TBI systems use two injectors. Sometimes they use four injectors. Our port EFI system uses eight injectors. To illustrate why this is important, lets use a pretty typical horsepower figure for a performance V8 engine. 450hp is fairly easy to achieve, and is a realistic figure, so that is what we will use for this example. A 450hp V8 engine, using eight injectors would require 30pph (pounds per hour) injectors. The same engine with four injectors would require 60pph injectors. The larger the injector, the sloppier it gets at low RPMs, and the less efficient they become. Poor idle quality and poor fuel economy are the result. For you power hungry fellows, lets consider something more extreme. Lets say the engine is supercharged, and makes 800hp at the flywheel. With eight injectors, you would use 60pph injectors, and those 60pph injectors would work just fine, since this engine will suck up a little sloppiness without issue. But the TBI system would need 120pph injectors. Also keep in mind... at idle, the supercharger is not producing any boost, and the engine is not producing any more power than it would without the supercharger, so it cannot use all that extra fuel. Now that's sloppy! I'm sure you can do the math on the two injector systems...

Also worth mentioning, is the progression the auto makers have made over the years. We started with carburetors, then electronic carburetors, then TBI, then batch fired port EFI, then sequential fired port EFI. Each replaced it's successor for a reason. The Mass-Flo system is a sequential fired port EFI system.

 

How about fuel economy? What should I expect to gain by using Mass-Flo?

That's a good question, and a tough one to answer accurately, since every engine will be different. What we can tell you is this... You are almost assured of an improvement. We've sold systems to customers who were previously using other brands of aftermarkrt fuel injection, and seen large gains in economy (as much as 25 percent!), as well as gains in drivability and power. You can expect HUGE gains over a carburetor. Customers have reported gains of over 75 percent over their carburetor!

We routinely hear of MPG figures in the area of 21 to 25 MPG on engines making well over 500 horsepower!

 

How about emissions? Will I pass?

Another tough one... Whether or not you pass will be determined by your combination of engine components. No induction/management system can make an absolute fire breathing gas hog pass emissions. However, we have NEVER had a customer fail emissions! Not even on engines that SHOULD have failed! What we can say is that the Mass-Flo system will make it as clean as possible, and if there is a chance, the Mass-Flo system is your best shot.

 

I've been told that my camshaft will not work well with fuel injection. Is this true?

Yes, and no...

Speed density fuel injection systems rely heavily on engine vacuum to determine the amount of fuel to add. Speed density systems use a Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor to read engine vacuum. Camshafts that product poor vacuum make it difficult for speed density systems to figure out how much fuel the engine needs. The result is very poor drivability.

The Mass-Flo system does not use a MAP sensor. It uses a Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor to directly measure the amount of incoming air. This allows you to choose a camshaft based on your needs, rather than having to worry about how your fuel injection system will work with it. Mass-Flo works great with any camshaft.

 

How much horsepower will the Mass-Flo system support?

We have used it with great sucess with engines producing as much as 1000 horsepower.

 

I'd like to supercharge. Can the Mass-Flo system be used with my supercharger?

Absolutely!  Just let us know that you will be supercharging when you order. We will substitute a conventional or a blow through meter instead of our hidden air meter at no additional charge. We'll discuss your particular application, and include the correct meter for your system.

 

What if I decide to make improvements later? If I make more horsepower, do I need to make changes to my system?

If you make future improvements, chances are you will not need to make a single change to our system. If you plan to make large gains in horse power, and you need to upgrade your injectors, just send the air meter back, and we will re-calibrate it. That's it! You will never need to program our system!

 

I don't have much hood clearance. Will the Mass-Flo system fit?

The Mass-Flo system will fit anywhere a conventional 4bbl carb and intake manifold will fit. In many cases, it can go where a carburetor won't fit. Our throttle body is 1 1/4" lower than a typical 4bbl carburetor. Call us if you need help fitting in a tight space.

 

 

 

 

 

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